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class="">“Yo me acuerdo que mi padre me contaba que en Bilbao se celebraron las míticas ligas ganadas por la Real”, relata Otaola para ilustrar esa cercanía. “Es fascinante compartir la confraternidad de esos partidos”, afirma Otxoa, que se pregunta si en el mundo habrá muchos más casos de duelos de tan exigente grado de competencia en los que reine esa simpatía mutua y buen ambiente.</p><p class="">Otxoa y Otaola, de hecho, vieron juntos el último derbi en San Mamés, “la primera vez que, conmigo presente, perdió allí la Real”, confiesa con un fastidio apenas fingido Otxoa, mientras Otaola bromea con él: se le acabó la suerte como talismán <i>realtzale</i>. Es, dicen ambos, uno de esos “días bonitos del año”, de los que señalan en el calendario para tratar de organizarse con amigos en torno al fútbol: grupos de seguidores de uno y otro equipo mezclados.</p><figure class="a_m a_m-h "><span class="_db a_m_w _pr lb_btn"><img alt="Gorka Otxoa, protagonista de éxitos como 'Machos alfa', es un gran seguidor de la Real Sociedad." decoding="auto" class="_re lazyload a_m-h" height="233" srcSet="https://imagenes.elpais.noticiaspernambucanelpais.noticiaspernambucanas.com/resizer/v2/U5PBH4NLTRDCXB7Q4RU4QJZXK4.png?auth=a446ae848d315ed7c3a0596cdc1710cf9f0ff7c9463dddca8a0f556ca8727188&width=414 414w,https://imagenes.elpais.noticiaspernambucanelpais.noticiaspernambucanas.com/resizer/v2/U5PBH4NLTRDCXB7Q4RU4QJZXK4.png?auth=a446ae848d315ed7c3a0596cdc1710cf9f0ff7c9463dddca8a0f556ca8727188&width=828 640w,https://imagenes.elpais.noticiaspernambucanelpais.noticiaspernambucanas.com/resizer/v2/U5PBH4NLTRDCXB7Q4RU4QJZXK4.png?auth=a446ae848d315ed7c3a0596cdc1710cf9f0ff7c9463dddca8a0f556ca8727188&width=980 1000w,https://imagenes.elpais.noticiaspernambucanelpais.noticiaspernambucanas.com/resizer/v2/U5PBH4NLTRDCXB7Q4RU4QJZXK4.png?auth=a446ae848d315ed7c3a0596cdc1710cf9f0ff7c9463dddca8a0f556ca8727188&width=1960 1960w" width="414" sizes="(min-width:1199px) 1155px,(min-width:1001px) calc(100vw - 44px),(min-width:768px) 767px, 100vw" src="https://imagenes.elpais.noticiaspernambucanelpais.noticiaspernambucanas.com/resizer/v2/U5PBH4NLTRDCXB7Q4RU4QJZXK4.png?auth=a446ae848d315ed7c3a0596cdc1710cf9f0ff7c9463dddca8a0f556ca8727188&width=414" loading="lazy"/><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon_multimedia_ampliar | _pa a_m_i a_m_i-a _dn" viewBox="0 0 40 40"><use xlink:href="#svg-ampliar"></use></svg></span><figcaption class="a_m_p" aria-hidden="true"><span>Gorka Otxoa, protagonista de éxitos como 'Machos alfa', es un gran seguidor de la Real Sociedad.</span></figcaption></figure><p class="">Una forma de convivencia que, indica Otaola, se traslada también a lo que sucede en el campo: “En San Mamés yo he visto ovacionar a leyendas de la Real”, cuenta. Existe un reconocimiento mutuo, más allá del resultado. Una realidad que creen que se sustenta en el sentimiento de pertenencia que generan ambos clubes, algo que se refleja en sus valores y filosofía, muy comprometida con la cantera. “Aquí no hay segundo equipo, o eres del Athletic o eres de la Real, y punto”, explica Otxoa.</p><p class="">Lander Otaola estuvo cerca de convertirse en jugador del Athletic. Jugaba de delantero en un equipo modesto, destacó en la selección vasca y recaló en Lezama, donde coincidió durante cuatro temporadas con chicos que luego fueron estrellas, como Ander Iturraspe, Óscar de Marcos o Mikel San José: “Fueron años muy bonitos, de mucha disciplina. Me levantaba a las siete y volvía a la diez a mi casa”. Un día, cuenta, un entrenador preguntó que “quién no quería ser futbolista de primera”: “Yo, que nunca he tenido muchas luces, levanté la mano”, dice Otaola, que por entonces ya sabía que quería dedicarse a la interpretación y sospechaba que ambos oficios no serían compatibles. “Esa fortaleza mental que tengo como actor: tolerar la frustración, saber que el 95% de las veces te dirán ‘no’ en un <i>casting</i>, como futbolista no la tenía. No creo que hubiese llegado a la élite”, confiesa.</p><p class="">A Otxoa, aunque también jugó a fútbol, lo que de verdad se le daban bien de niño eran las danzas vascas, con las que participó en festivales de toda Europa. “Pero desde crío tengo fotos con la camiseta de la Real. Lo mío viene de lejos”, relata.</p><figure class="a_m a_m-h "><span class="_db a_m_w _pr lb_btn"><img alt="El actor Lander Otaola, que ha participado en éxitos como 'Patria' o 'Detective Touré', fue de niño canterano del Athletic Club." decoding="auto" class="_re lazyload a_m-h" height="233" srcSet="https://imagenes.elpais.noticiaspernambucanelpais.noticiaspernambucanas.com/resizer/v2/BMENT45KUJEO5OBXIPXRKB2SHU.png?auth=6484f05b378b2f7974d3b8f6780a7dfe0992eb9a6e8a9a7e73b344df7e9615fd&width=414 414w,https://imagenes.elpais.noticiaspernambucanelpais.noticiaspernambucanas.com/resizer/v2/BMENT45KUJEO5OBXIPXRKB2SHU.png?auth=6484f05b378b2f7974d3b8f6780a7dfe0992eb9a6e8a9a7e73b344df7e9615fd&width=828 640w,https://imagenes.elpais.noticiaspernambucanelpais.noticiaspernambucanas.com/resizer/v2/BMENT45KUJEO5OBXIPXRKB2SHU.png?auth=6484f05b378b2f7974d3b8f6780a7dfe0992eb9a6e8a9a7e73b344df7e9615fd&width=980 1000w,https://imagenes.elpais.noticiaspernambucanelpais.noticiaspernambucanas.com/resizer/v2/BMENT45KUJEO5OBXIPXRKB2SHU.png?auth=6484f05b378b2f7974d3b8f6780a7dfe0992eb9a6e8a9a7e73b344df7e9615fd&width=1960 1960w" width="414" sizes="(min-width:1199px) 1155px,(min-width:1001px) calc(100vw - 44px),(min-width:768px) 767px, 100vw" src="https://imagenes.elpais.noticiaspernambucanelpais.noticiaspernambucanas.com/resizer/v2/BMENT45KUJEO5OBXIPXRKB2SHU.png?auth=6484f05b378b2f7974d3b8f6780a7dfe0992eb9a6e8a9a7e73b344df7e9615fd&width=414" loading="lazy"/><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon_multimedia_ampliar | _pa a_m_i a_m_i-a _dn" viewBox="0 0 40 40"><use xlink:href="#svg-ampliar"></use></svg></span><figcaption class="a_m_p" aria-hidden="true"><span>El actor Lander Otaola, que ha participado en éxitos como 'Patria' o 'Detective Touré', fue de niño canterano del Athletic Club.</span></figcaption></figure><p class="">La conversación, indudablemente, transita también por la enorme visibilidad que el fútbol vasco comienza a alcanzar fuera de sus fronteras, gracias a algunos de sus jugadores más internacionales: “En Japón, la gente me decía, ¿San Sebastián? ¡Real Sociedad, Take Kubo!”. Un fútbol que, sin embargo, en su momento más brillante, en pleno crecimiento, no se olvida de seguir encarnando los mejores valores del deporte: la cuadrilla de amigos junta, la celebración que no aparta o menosprecia al rival.</p><p class="">Por eso, antes de despedirse, Otxoa y Otaola expresan un deseo: “Que sigamos viajando por Europa con nuestros equipos y viendo derbis juntos”.</p><h2 class=""><b>Un proyecto contra el odio</b></h2><p class="">ELDERBI VASCO se hizo viral con una imagen: un aficionado del Athletic riendo entre un batallón de camisetas <i>txuri urdines</i> que, de espaldas, celebra el gol de su equipo. Esa fotografía condensa aquello que el fútbol es y que la iniciativa de esta serie de videopódcast de LALIGA VS quiere propulsar. 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